De relatie tussen mensen en varkens

Altijd kijken waar het vandaan komt. Er doet ook een verhaal de ronde dat mensen duizenden jaren in hogere machten hebben geloofd, en dat we pas sinds de 19e eeuw zo slim zijn geworden om in te zien dat al onze voorouders werden gedreven door angsten. Dat verhaal eindigt altijd zo: gelukkig weet de westerse mens wel beter.. en hoeven wij niet meer bang te zijn en te geloven in stille krachten. Hersenonderzoekers hebben namelijk gewoon aangetoond dat ons bewustzijn verdwijnt zodra onze hersenen sterven. Dat is het verhaal uit onze schoolboekjes, het is net 100 jaar oud, je kunt dus nog goed nagaan welke denk-tank dat de wereld in heeft gebracht, en je kunt er niets mee buiten Europa.

 
Het valt me op dat mensen de meest uiteenlopende fantasiën hebben en er ook nog in geloven.

Fantasieën, theorieën en redeneringen heb ik op zichzelf helemaal niks tegen, maar een kleine slag om de arm. Gelijk roepen ja is echt, de werkelijkheid, de waarheid, hoger bewustzijn, being truly awake bla bla bla. Maakt het sommige mensen echt opdringerig. Er komen hier meer wazige namen voorbij als in de "Lord of the Rings" en niets van dit alles is hard te maken.

De herkomst van taal en de symboliek van getallen, voordat we die rommel hadden ging het een stuk beter met ons mensen dus daar zoek ik zeker geen antwoorden in. Rationele hersenpoep. Cijfers en taal, zijn een suiker en graan aandoening die de achteruitgang van ons als mensheid hebben ingeleid. Dat is mijn theorie. Voor dat we die rommel aten, bestond er geen sadisme/masochisme/nihilisme/holisme.

In het hier en in het nu zijn, present, meer heeft een mens niet nodig om zich mee bezig te houden.

 
Dank Thijs.

Ik denk dat er zorgvuldig gewerkt wordt aan het manipuleren van onze belevingswereld en het 'pakken' van onze levensenergie. Het gebeurt de laatste duizend jaar heel geraffineerd , ook omdat we het hebben laten gebeuren. We zijn er altijd zelf bij, en iedereen heeft de aangeboren vrije wil om je energie niet te laten afpakken. Als mensen bewuster worden, inderdaad ascensie, dan is er altijd een weggetje naar buiten, dus uit de gevangenis. Dus wat voor gevangenis is het dan nog? Eentje die mensen in laag bewustzijn wil houden.

Maar door wat dan precies volgens jou?

Je zegt dat je het wel een goede website vind maar volgens haar is het einde van de aarde in zicht. Dat deze plek een creatie is van het duister en dat lichtwezens hier gevangen zitten in hun geprogammeerde lichamen (door buitenaardsen/reptielen etc) Vind je dat niet een beetje ver gaan?

Het is naar mijn mening nogal een schril contrast met het aardse van de natuurvolkeren wat we hier verkondigen.

 
Ze maakt een fout, ons lichaam is niet geprogrammeerd door kwade krachten, althans daar ga ik vanuit. Dit wordt wel The rape of Eve genoemd, ik geloof niet dat dat kan, niet zonder onze consensus.
Het idee dat we eigenlijk al gedoemd zijn, is hetzelfde type misleiding als in Genesis, en dat is precies waar de gnosten tegen ageerden. De mens is er altijd zelf bij, en heeft altijd de vrije wil om boven programmering (van jongs af aan) uit te stijgen. Wij hebben een lichaam, een ziel, en een goddelijke connectie / connectie met de bron; dus eigenlijk drievoudig. Archonten, de duivel of hoe het je het ook noemt, hebben niets van dit alles.

Nu je het zegt, ik lees inderdaad doemdenken bij haar, en ze laat zich meeslepen met annunaki enzo, met het verhaal dat die met z'n allen op een planeet zouden zitten die eens in de zoveel tijd voorbij komt, daar kan ik helemaal niets mee. De aarde is juist een prachtige leerschool, een soort trainingskamp om jezelf te scherpen, te profiteren van incarnatie, en ik geloof echt dat we ons zelf hebben aangemeld.

Gnosten schreven dat onze wereld (de wereld zoals we die kennen, zoals we die zien) niet rechtstreeks geschapen is door de bron, maar door de Demiurg. Terwijl wij als mensen juist wel die goddelijke oorsprong hebben. Het brengt een prachtig spel van duister en licht, dat in principe ook steeds in balans blijft.
De aarde vergaat niet hoor, maar we gaan wel naar een heel nieuwe cyclus toe, wat Maya's eigenlijk ook wisten. Ik geloof dus wel helemaal in het idee van Nieuwetijds-kinderen enzo. We krijgen nu de kans om ons echt te bevrijden van oude pijnen en trauma's uit familielijnen, juist door de pijnlijkste stukken te doorgronden (en er dus niet voor weg te lopen onder het mom van 'het licht komt eraan'). Ook wakkere geesten zoals Gurdieff hebben beschreven hoe wij ons kunnen bevrijden.

 
Ik heb me weinig verdiept in deze materie (overkill). Ik zie wel op dit forum o.a. een hoop verschillende theorieën voorbij komen. Mij valt dat de paar mensen waar ik wel naar geluisterd heb het allemaal zeggen dat liefde het hoogste is. De een heeft het gezien, de ander berekend en de volgende weet het weer om een andere reden.
Ik geloof ook dat wij ons leven hier hebben uitgekozen en ik geloof ook dat we voor onze geboorte bepaalde dingen hebben afgesproken. Diverse mensen die ik ontmoet hebt, wel ik vind het te toevallig. Dus als jij zegt dat het misschien wel afgesproken is, dan geloof ik dat. En of het dan ook gebeurt? We hebben ook vrije wil. Ik weet het niet. (ik geef mezelf maar een voldoende 8) )

Ik geloof ook dat ik laatst gehaald ben door een engel, zodat ik ergens op tijd was om een ongeluk te voorkomen. Die persoon heeft blijkbaar dus wat te doen hier op aarde.

Er komen andere tijden aan zeggen velen. Dan zijn er weer vele theorieën over hoe, wat en waarom. Wat er komen gaat, is dus een verrassing. Er zal een reden zijn dat bepaalde vermogens en kennis van ons op slot zit. Wat anders kan ik doen dan te leven in vertrouwen in mijzelf, mijn intuïtie en de onbekende bedoeling, karma weg te werken en mij op andere manieren te bevrijden en te ontwikkelen. De grootste kennis zit verborgen in een andere dimensie(s?), om bij die kennis te komen, moet ik luisteren naar mijn intuïtie. Of te wel, om slimmer te worden, moet ik deels stoppen met denken.
Leven in vertrouwen, dat is op dit moment de boodschap aan mezelf.

 
Hoi Thijs,
Ik heb een vraagje nog. Die vrouw die ik aanhaal die is enorm overtuigd over haar zienswijze. Ontelbare artikelen van haar hand over deze werkelijkheid volgens haar met allerlei bronnen die haar mening/overtuigingen bevestigen/bepalen.
Jij hebt ook een bepaalde zienswijze ontwikkelt waar je van overtuigd ben. En zo kun je nog talloze vinden. Loop Frontier bookshop maar eens binnen/struin internet maar eens af.

Waar ik van overtuigd ben gaat tot de filosofie van Weston Price de liefde voor mijn kinderen en niet verder. Voor de rest heb ik eigenlijk geen idee hoe het zit.(maar ik leef ook iets teveel in mijn hoofd).

Als ik zelf dus zo'n website lees van zo'n vrouw denk ik dus. Hoe kan iemand zo overtuigd zijn? Ik bedoel de manier waarop ze schrijft komt ze niet dom over ofzo, alleen is de informatie erg extreem. Het brengt mijzelf altijd een beetje in verwarring als ik mensen zo overtuid zie spreken over hun waarheid. (en ze zegt ook dat ze energie kan waarnemen en mensen waar ze naar verwijst dus ook).

Hoe weet je dat iets klopt? Hoe kan iemand overtuigd zijn van zoiets? Projectie?

 
Simpel: luister niet naar gesjeesde blanken! Ga uit van de oude wijsheden van niet-blanke volkeren en culturen die door ons blanken zijn onderdrukt of zelfs uitgeroeid.

Mike

 
Het Center for Disease Control (CDC) heeft maar liefst 70 (!) patenten op Ebola:

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Mike

 
Ga uit van de oude wijsheden van niet-blanke volkeren en culturen die door ons blanken zijn onderdrukt of zelfs uitgeroeid.

Dat resoneert ook voor mij als waarheid.


Heb je een tip voor een goed boek? (behalve Voeding & Fysieke degeneratie :wink: )

Toch ben ik gefacineert hoe dat soort extreme denkwijze mensen overtuigd. Denk je dat het bewust gefabriceerde desinfo is Mike?

In die kringen wordt je dus zelfs bang gemaakt voor doodgaan. Hier had Iklustvet het over denk ik.
http://www.zengardner.com/exit-reincarnation-system/

 
De elite zet zeker bewuste disinfo uit, maar op een gegeven moment krijg je een 'self-fulfilling prophesy'. Als de gekte eenmaal om zich heen grijpt hoeft de elite alleen maar achterover te leunen en toe te kijken hoe wij onszelf en elkaar gek maken. Dat is ook het punt dat thijs (terecht) maakt: vraag jezelf af wat het is in JOU dat je vatbaar maakt voor de duisternis en de waanzin. Het is te makkelijk om met de vinger te wijzen naar wat ZIJ doen, het gaat om wat JIJ laat doen. Het enige wat we moeten doen is onze eigen mind control, door 100% zelfdenkend te zijn en onze vrijheid van bewustzijn niet weg te geven!

Mike

 
Ja Debsy, lastig. Ik denk dat je uiteindelijk op gevoel afgaat. Ik denk dat deze mevrouw veel goede dingen te melden heeft, maar dat de balans een beetje zoek is.
Vergelijk het een beetje met de bijdrages van onze goede oude Moondust. Hij plaatste vraagtekens bij individualiteit, bij goed en kwaad, bij tijd en bij vrije wil. Allemaal onderdeel van de matrix, volgens hem.
Ja, we weten dat mensen in diep-meditatieve staat zo'n eenheid en tijdloosheid echt kunnen ervaren, en ook dat je met quantumphysics de meest basale zaken inderdaad illusies of hologrammen kunt noemen. Toch druist zo'n wereldopvatting in tegen mijn gevoel. Hoe ver mensen ook gaan om iets te 'bewijzen', het voelt als niet relevant.
Het is niet voor niks is dat we een lichaam hebben dat na verloop van tijd oud wordt. Voor mijn gevoel allemaal deel van wat we hier doen, en dat is leren.
En natuurlijk, er zijn geen natuurvolkeren die zichzelf gingen ontkennen, en zo zijn er ook geen natuurvolkeren die verkondigden dat het project mensheid op aarde vanwege duivelse invloed gedoemd is om te vergaan.

Er zijn ook mensen binnen georganiseerde religies die de religieuze terminologie aanhouden, en die juist weer wél met een heel gebalanceerd wereldbeeld komen. Kerken zijn misschien niet de plek waar je wijsheid verwacht (eerder volgzaamheid) maar er zijn eigenzinnige voorgangers en sprekers binnen christelijke stromingen die in de kern met hetzelfde bezig zijn, en dat is jezelf als mens proberen te scherpen, op zoek naar waar het echt om gaat. We kunnen dan meteen denken: fout! georganiseerde religie = afleiding, wij weten wel beter! ; maar hoe wijs zijn wij dan ? Het is maar net hoe iemand bepaalde termen opvat.

 
Uit "not in his image" van Lash.

"As Pagans, the gnostics rejected the belief that suffering has a redemptive value. As theologians, they refuted the claim that divine intervention could alter the human condition. By rejecting the superhuman savior and refuting salvatonist beliefs, Gnostics drew a frontal assault from those who were formulating and enforcing the doctrines of the Judeo-Christian redeemer complex. The brutal suppression of the Mysteries, the destruction of Gnostic writings, and the Wholesale genocide of Pagan culture in Europe belong to the untold story of "Western civilization" and "the triumph of Christianity."

"It might be objected that deep ecology should not become religious, or, by the same measure, that Gaia theory ought not to be converted into "Goddess mystique". The Gnostics who founded and led the Mysteries of ancient Europe and the Near East were accomplished mystics inspired by a sacred theory of the earth, but they were not religious in the conventional sense: that is, they did not impose a moral code, doctrinal formulas, and institutional authority. The Gnostic message had two components: a sacred vision of the earth, and a radical critique of salvationist doctrines centered on the Judeo-Christian messia, especially the redeemer complex. The Gnostic critique was brutally suppressed because it callenged the core beliefs of imperialist Roman religion, beliefs that have as much, if not more political utility as they do spirutal veracity."

Het rare is dat je dus overal hoort dat dit vroege christenen waren, terwijl ze dat dus juist niet waren.

Over haat zegt hij in zijn voorwoord "If humanity is filled with hatred, my personal share might act like a homeopathic dose against the general infection. I do not categorically reject hatred, or deny it a humane value. I hate the enslavement and manipulation of the human spirit by false and perverted beliefs disguised in religious ideals and ethics. Hatred is an inevitable part of the human horror on this planet, but it can also be part of the cure. As Paracelsus said, the cure is in the dose"

 
Mij valt dat de paar mensen waar ik wel naar geluisterd heb het allemaal zeggen dat liefde het hoogste is.

Dat denk ik ook, maar dat komt omdat wij in staat zijn tot liefde, vooral binnen het gezin (daarbuiten wordt het voor mij al een stuk moeilijker, daarom dat dat gezin ook zo onder vuur ligt). De mensen die het kwaad in deze wereld voorstellen zijn niet in staat tot liefde, je kunt niet tegelijkertijd massamoordenaar zijn en drones op kinderen afsturen, een gat in de great barrier reef boren omdat er dan beter doorgevaren kan worden, en thuis echt van je eigen kinderen houden. Dat gaat er bij mij niet in. Dat is geen echte liefde. Liefde is het hoogste, maar ik geloof niet dat alles met liefde te genezen is.

 
Bedankt Thijs!

The Illusions Of The Death Trap

We have been educated by the men and women behind "The System" to think the non-sense thoughts that maintain their power structures and ensure that their death trap outcomes are achieved. These non-sensory thoughts are the spells of "The System" that keep us trapped in their system, thinking their images of Jesus, Cosmic Self and aliens, of money, savings, careers, of contracts with transport, energy, entertainment, shelter, food and water, of debt, interest payments, loans, mortgages and credit cards and of politics, religions, system science and man-made laws (statutes). But, if we step back from all their occults and esoterics, we can see/sense the trickery behind them and how they are psychologically designed to keep us thinking powerlessness for our real lives and encouragement for the registered name of the "person" we rent in their death trap.

Whenever we look for remedy, they offer us another false image. Our challenge is to recognise these false non-sensory images for what they are. Common Law, Statute Laws, Constitution, Democracy, UCC, Frank O'Collins Ucadia, Thrive, Zeitgeist, OPPT, One World, One Earth, One Humanity, light workers, higher beings...... these are all false images because they come from the image bank of "The System" which ONLY contains death trap images that benefit those behind "The System" storytelling of those images. There are hundreds and hundreds of them now, as more and more people start looking for something better than the current version of "The System". If you look carefully you can see that the death-trap power structures are still there and power structures mean life energy being sucked out of men, women and children used to prop up a dead world.

We fight over these false, non-sensory images, battling over our image power addictions in discussions and social networks, when we should be focusing on sensory-life remedy and cleaning up nature/earth. Image power is everywhere, coming at us in 1001 ways as we give up taking full responsibility for our real sensory lives, instead waiting for those behind the death trap images to tell us how to live dead. While we are at war with each other over image power, we are fighting for the death trap.

Through the death trap, we have been brainwashed into being in awe of the people who rule us, thinking that they are better than us and have the right to have authority over us but who they really are, are just men and women like the rest of us. Once you take away their costumes and titles and pull them out from behind the screens, they are revealed as being no better or worse than anyone else and no more powerful. They are just learned in the art of death trap image power and have been using it against us for a long time. So convinced are we of their superiority that we ask them to change our lives in the death trap for us instead of taking full responsibility for changing them. We have massive rallies in the death trap complaining about what they are doing in the death trap because we don't think we have the power to walk away from the death trap and say, "No, thank you".

The only remedy to "The System is to take full responsibility for everything we think, feel and do. When we are all doing this, then we no longer do harm to each other or anything of life because we see life as a gift and that we are here to raise each other up, being the wind under each other's wings. This is a sensory image we are setting into motion, the image that contains all the virtues of love in creation. We take full responsibility for the land we stand on and for the water, shelter and food provided on that land. We no longer have to rely on any system re-presentatives who may sound as though they have our best interests at heart but always have a power base, a system service/products tied to obligations, a think tank, an administration, a trust, a federation; some form of death trap that is set up as a third party that we are answerable to, just as we are now answerable to the government, laws, experts, corporations, scientific institutions and priests, (soon to be light-bearers/shepherds, etc.). Without their power bases/death traps, they have no power which is why their "remedies" are always presented with power bases that smell like roses. Watch out for the lies

 
Goede tekst! Thrive en Zeitgeist zijn misleidend, en al helemaal de galactische federatie van het licht (en dat hoor je te schrijven met meerdere hoofdletters geloof ik .. :wink: ). De vraag voor mij is altijd of het nog gebaseerd is op oude filosofie. Alle wijsheid is oud.
Ik heb zelf veel aan dit boek: http://neilkramer.com/store/the-unfoldment-book , en aan de lezingen. Kramer noemt het 'the construct' en schrijft dat mystici door de eeuwen heen hebben geprobeerd om dat vóór te zijn, bijvoorbeeld Jakob Boehme. Zelf verantwoordelijkheid nemen, en jezelf serieus nemen.
Ik geloof trouwens wel in 'higher beings' hoor, zie geen reden om verslagen van alle tijden en van over de hele wereld te negeren.
Waarom ook? We zitten als mensen in 3D (bewustzijn verbonden aan het lichaam) met een kleine overlap naar 4D (buiten het lichaam), met dat laatste kun je wel contact leggen en ervan leren. Sommige mensen noemen het akashic field, het zit ook in boeddhisme, in meerdere tradities. Maya's die exact de planeetstanden wisten enzo, moeten dat toch ergens vandaan hebben gehaald.

 
Hai Thijs, Het bleef me maar bezighouden.
Ik ben zelf gaan zoeken en dat doe ik al een tijdje want ik blijf maar met vragen zitten.
Gisteren kwam ik op deze website http://loveforlife.com.au/
daar komt die tekst vandaan. Dat zelf verantwoordelijkheid nemen geloof ik ook 100% 4D enzo geen idee.

Hier een stukje over NON-DUALIST (is het hier ook vaak over gegaan) Eckhart Tolle van deze man. (Arthur Christian heet hij, hij schrijft echt lappen tekst) :-)

Dana, we were always sincere and clear in our intentions with you throughout the whole of the Eckhart Tolle interaction. Eckhart Tolle is "NAME". Do you fully comprehend the significance of this and how it shatters EVERYONE who falls into and under-the-standing of the image-power associated to that "name"?

We were NOT addressing your pure and sincere heart-felt inspired intentions, we were addressing the Satanic power behind the "name" "Eckhart Tolle" and its effect on all victims who fall under the image power of that "name". The Bible is also "name", as is Jesus, Virgin Mary, etc. There are multi millions of them. When we choose to put our faith and belief into a "name", an image, we empower it with our life force energy which is reflected back at us in the image of our projection, our making.

When there are multi thousands/millions all focusing on the same image, "name", the collective will power and intent of that faith and belief empowers everyone under that image. This is how so-called miracles and healings are created; there is no miracle about any of them, just the collective life force energy and the intent of believers creating them. This is Satanic practise, the craft and practise of Satanism.

The Bible is set to the system - everything in the background of the Bible is "The System", just as the background to Tolle is "The System" of "name". These are pictures that are not brought to anyone's attention and, because they are not brought to anyone's attention, they become the blind spots that we explain further on, that people are not aware of. There is far more information in the picture of the Bible or the virgin Mary than believers are conscious of; it is subliminal programming.

When we confront bible believers and point this out to them, they do not want to look at this. They are in deep denial because they can't prove that any of the images of Jesus, the Bible, etc, have come to them through direct experience in nature. They have not experienced them as living sensory life forms. They are just pictures that we call thoughts. The belief of the believers is so powerful that they do not want to see that they are just believing what they have been educated to believe. They are willingly continuing their slave status, even fighting for it.

As we often say, where can innocent children not exposed to system images, such as God, Bible, Jesus, etc, directly experience these images in nature as sensory life forms? They cannot comprehend these images without someone who has already been brainwashed into the images explaining them to them. Where would a child brought up in nature with animals and no evidence of "civilisation" anywhere, ever come across these images? This shows us how deep Bible believers are in denial.

For instance, they talk about God being male but, if they look carefully into the system images in the Bible, they will see that the priests are male, and the leaders are mostly male. This is the psyop programming at work because all the believers trapped by these Satanic images are also trapped by all the other images of "The System" that they have learnt through their education. They think that they are saved but they are still slaves, still compelled by all the laws and rules and regulations and to working hard, day in, day out, to keep a roof over their heads and food on the table. This isn't freedom, this is delusion! All they have to offer is the spell they have fallen for. Another MAN is their master but they think they are saved.

Satanists, those who create the images for others to fall for, also have the power to send images to people's brains, whether of "appearances" or "miracles" so that the believers are convinced of what they believe in. This consolidates their belief and, as their belief system is set against "The System", cannot help but support "The System" if they continue worshipping their beliefs.

The image makers are MAN and the believers are MAN. There is no separated archetype, no invisible higher, more powerful being that only the lucky, privileged few get to glimpse or experience. For example, if someone wants to come and visit us, we can give them the location we are at and they can come to that location and experience us directly through their senses.

We cannot, however, visit God or Jesus and experience them directly through our senses. If we ask for their location we are told that they are in heaven which we cannot experience either! All we can experience is another man or woman telling us about God or Jesus that they most likely haven't experienced directly through their senses either.

All that they are worshipping are pictures, "names", that have been given to them by other men and women that are nowhere to be found as sensory living life forms in nature. Does anything of nature need these pictures in order to exist? By worshipping these pictures, they are worshipping the MAN who invented the pictures, the MAN who thought them up. At the start of the Bible, it says, "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God." The Satanists are telling you the truth: the word is man-made and God is the inventor of the word = a MAN. The word is not natural, not sensory. It doesn't exist as a sensory life form of its own free will, as a horse does.

Christians say that the Bible is the living word of God, but where is it living? Where can we visit this living word? Where can we visit the pictures/images of this living word? Where can we visit the languages that this living word is presented in? Where are a, b, c? Or Hebrew, or hieroglyphics? Believers in this living word are actually believers in the image power of another MAN, in the pictures thought up by a MAN. Bible believers break their first commandment, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." They break it because the thought of God is not God - it is just an idea of a God made up by another MAN and they are worshipping that MAN as a God.

"The System" was made up by a MAN who made up the letters and pictures that became the spells that persuaded other men and women to give up their power to the law, politics, religions, education and institutions of "The System". Most men and women are deeply discriminated against because they don't want power and control over others so end up giving up their power to others because, in "The System", there always has to be someone in power. We learn not to take full responsibility for being the creator and to live lives under limited liability.

Pictures/images/words can't come forward as first parties; only men and women can come forwards to explain the pictures to us. This clearly shows us the truth that WE are the ones with the power. We are the living, sensory life forms that can be experienced by other living sensory life forms without the need for explanations or smoke and mirror tactics.

Christians can show us plenty of "good" messages in the Bible, such as love thy neighbour, do not steal, etc, but that does not mean that the Bible is not a brainwashing tool to keep men and women trapped in "The System". Did we not have all these "good" attributes before the Bible came along? Why are they putting doubt and uncertainty into MAN'S thinking? In the same way, there are lots of "good" messages in the work of Tolle, but this does not detract from the fact that his work is set against the backdrop of "The System" and does nothing to free men and women from the tyranny of system thought and belief.

Satanists love supporting his work by allowing him exposure and a following because they use people like him as a net that captures men and women who are looking for a way out, for an end to the suffering of "The System". In their searching, they come across Tolle, feel the "good" in his work and think they have found something really powerful, unaware, or in denial, of the fact that his work is another system cul-de-sac that just continues their slave status in "The System".

This is why we are always talking about seeing the bigger picture: if we do not see/sense the big-picture, as to what is really going on, we will continue to be duped, deceived, tricked and trapped under the image power of "name" = the continuation of self-centeredness = the continuation of complete e-motional bondage to "The System" of "name"/"names". Those behind "The System" know this which is why people such as Tolle get invited onto Oprah Winfrey and given huge exposure throughout the media of "The System". You don't see us invited on Oprah, do you? Or anywhere, even among so called freedom/truth/alternative operators.

The only people who interview us are small, totally independent men and women with their own internet radio stations.You would think that all those freedom/truthers out there would at least have an interest in seeing what we have to say, and in scrutinising it and putting what we say to the test. But no, we are ignored, which we take as a huge compliment!

The "name", Eckhart Tolle and all that he writes, does not address almost everything we have been addressing since March 2005. "The System" images associated to "Name", Love For Life.com.au and "names" Fiona Cristian, Arthur Cristian and Arthur & Fiona Cristian, etc, address the big picture we see/sense in and of "The System" allowing everyone who comes into contact with these "names" (images) to see/sense the big picture we see/sense IF they put the effort in and do all the hard work, scrutinising, etc, required.

As occurred in the Eckhart Tolle discussion and as again re-occurring in this FB PM chat, you are completely caught up in the e-motion of "Name" Dana Clark in conflict with the living MAN Fiona Cristian & Arthur Cristian, which has absolutely nothing to do with our intentions, perceptions, insights, what we are saying/writing, etc, where we are really coming from, etc......

If we want to stop reacting to trauma, to the pull of e-motion, we have to learn how to get off ALL our e-motional self-centeredness, attachments to "name" and the pictures associated with "name". To us, MAN has spent too long in our heads and we need to learn how to get out of there. MANS/our consciousness was meant to always be in control of our head and not our head in control and apart from our/MANS consciousness.

All the e-motions are clearly demonstrating the head disconnected from consciousness. No one "owns" consciousness for to do so is to enter into the storytelling of a make-believe illusion of separation between us. By setting "ownership" into motion, which we do through belief in "name" (that life-form is a daffodil and is yellow), with all the associated pictures/explanations attached (the yellow daffodil is part of this and that and does this and that...), we create the illusion of separation between each other (your "name's" postal address, tax file number, bank account, drivers license, etc and my "name's" postal address, tax file number, bank account, drivers license, etc), and between us and nature (astrology, astronomy, "system science", etc), and between who we really are and the make-believe performance of who we think and e-motionally believe we are.

The e-motional separation becomes the chaos in need of order, becomes the divide that needs to be ruled, so we buy/mortgage/lease land under "name" to provide the order to the chaos (doubt, uncertainty, fear-of-tomorrow, etc) "name" has. Do we have to jump 10 feet across a room to grab our next breath? Of course not, we already have it where we already are.

Through psyops programs we get conned into believing that the "name" we re-present does not have freedom, security, stability, etc, unless "name" "owns" land, so on behalf of "name", we buy/lease/mortgage land to compensate for (have ownership over) this e-motional trauma. We are already on land yet the e-motional program of lot, plot, address, bank account, mortgage, etc, provides the illusion of order (security) over land.

We were meant to be dreaming through our consciousness and expanding our consciousness by doing/being/living it (grounding/creating our dreams) through thoughts inspired, guided and directed by our consciousness. The e-motions ONLY offer conflict with MANS consciousness, conflict in-between who we think we are and our consciousness because who we think we are was put into our heads by someone else. Then there is the conflict between us, MAN to MAN, and the conflict between MAN and nature because everything of Earth/Nature/MAN has all been explained to us, we have not created this information in our unique lives in present sense through direct, sensory experience.

There is NO separation but we were trained to imagine a separation through explanation/education/instruction and, lost in this make-believe, we perform the separation as an e-motional program. Us, "name", to nature, "name". Us, "name", to multi-millions of "names". Divide = "name"- and rule = "name". This is how we have all been broken down into "The System" of "name".

We do not question who you are, or your intentions or sincerity, etc. We did not ask anyone to "jump on the bandwagon" and have a go at you. Why are you taking everything so personally (e-motionally)? We ALL have baggage to let go of, Dana, in many, many different ways so we are NEVER about superiority or being right or exclusivity or privilege. We will never claim to be better than anyone. What we do have to draw on is these past 9 years of scutinising and contemplating, thinking and sensing very deeply about everything we come across.

This sometimes makes us seem as though we think we know it all to people who want to take us this way. It is not that we think that we know it all, it is just that we have covered a huge amount of ground over that period and this experience enables us to very quickly see the lies and the fraud and the layers of deception. So, to some, we seem to write things off very fast, without looking at them in depth? Why? Because we can tell very quickly what is going on. Arthur did watch the video and we have read some of Tolle's work previously. We know what he is about.

Many people who have read Tolle form an e-motional attachment to his work because of things they like in his work. This can blind them to the bigger picture of what Tolle is really a part of, which is marching everyone towards the NWO, even though he may be unaware of this. We had to go through a culling process as we woke up. We thought David Icke was the bees knees and it was a shock when we realised what his role really is. And he is just one example of many, many people, ideas, books, etc, that we had to be brave enough to let go of to come to where we are now. Most people who wake up go through this and it is actually a great thing to go through because it weans us off our e-motional attachments.

We have to be careful about projecting our past experiences, feelings, e-motions, etc, onto what we are presented with. When we do, it is as though we take a white shirt and dip it in a bucket of mud, the mud being our baggage. When we do this, we are unable to see the white shirt clearly because of the mud.

How many relationships are conducted through the mud because people are unable to set aside the mud to really sense and experience their partner? Many, many, many, many. This is no different to "the daffodil is yellow". Every time we come across that life form, our heads are spinning with "the daffodil is yellow" and this image is more powerful to us than the actual life form. We cannot sense the life form because of the mud we are plastering it with.

When you place your e-motional attachment to what you were saying over us, you can no longer sense us, where we are coming from, our intentions, etc. You are in the trauma of that e-motion. Again, Dana, this is not to have a go at you. This is the reality for just about every one out there trapped in the e-motion of "The System". This is what we are trying to point out to you about Tolle. The pull of e-motion towards Tolle is actually very dangerous to everyone unsuspecting of the sleight of hand tactics in his work that become the blind spots that keep us firmly trapped in "The System" no matter how much we think we are "waking up" and "getting out".

As we wrote a few days ago on the FB wall........ "The challenge is to see/sense the complete big-picture cause then we can clearly navigate our way out of "The System" in this life as part of a mass exodus, never to be trapped. But if we don't clearly see/sense the big picture in its entirety then we remain trapped in all those areas we do not see/sense, the blind spots, and there we remain trapped with everyone else who followed our/their path (words)/pictures."

When we think of a "name", any "name", we will have a whole lot of meanings/associations, etc, that come with that "name", but there are many "names", many pictures that have a vast array of e-motional attachment that are the blind spots that stop everyone from seeing the big picture. If you can't see/sense the big picture, then you are trapped to be used and abused by Satanists/Freemasons who have got you exactly where they want you. By association with the "name", through your e-motional attachment, you are now open to being manipulated by the reflections, the mud, of all the system images..... the daffodil is yellow. Which is exactly why we answered your question/s the way we did - we were pointing out the bigger picture!

What we see from you, is a persistent habit of dumping your e-motional attachments on everyone, creating conflict where there is none intended. We have never asked you to get e-motional or defensive with us, or to take things we say as an attack on you, the woman. We have nothing against you, you are a good woman trying to make sense of the shitty world you have to live in and determined to do something about fixing it. Good for you - most people can't be bothered. We have to be strong enough to be able to talk about all our shit without getting into reactive, defensive mode. We ALL have baggage and we have to learn to talk about it and to look at it if we are to be able to leave it behind and walk to freedom together.

We go over this again and again and again with many, many people as we try to show them that we have to learn to focus on the task at hand even while our baggage is there because it is in the doing of Kindom, in the coming together and working for the healing of earth/nature/MAN that we learn to let go of everything that is preventing that healing.

The Matrix is an information highway of multiple millions of distractions that we have been educated to slip into and focus on until it becomes a habit that we practise and practise and practise until we become separated from our consciousness because we no longer sense it. Breaking this habit takes practise, practise, practise and more practise. Keep up your gardening - this is one way of breaking the practise!

You will learn to recognise when your head kicks in, the mud, the e-motion of pictures/"names" that occupy your focus becoming the blind spots that stop you being present to the living, because they themselves are not living - the mud has taken over. We see this all the time in the garden - people not being present to what they are doing, which is when the mistakes happen because people don't know where they are. The living MAN is no longer living at that moment because his/her consciousness is not in focus - the mud is.

Neither are they present to the consciousness of the plants, the soil, the worms, the microbes, etc. In the process of learning to being present, they start to notice that they have drifted off and, as they become more aware of these tendencies, they are amazed at how often they do it. Before we become aware of these habits, we do it all the time, totally unaware of the strength of this pull of satanic images that make us slaves and drones.

Kindom is about a living reality, not a dead one which is "The System" with all the e-motional baggage. Our consciousness needs to be present with the consciousness of all of life around us because there is no separation. All our thoughts should be coming from our consciousness to create the motions of our consciousness which is the dream that we live for in the life we live as MAN.

When we are present to the consciousness of sensory life forms that we are working with, we sense their purpose and their connection with everything and we would never do harm to this. Living MAN, living garden, living air, living soil, living creatures, etc, that is all our living, sensory consciousness. And we are present to the presence of that consciousness. There are no blind spots. It is when the mud kicks in that it all goes wrong.

When we let our heads drift off, the e-motional programs have kicked in and we are no longer in control; a man-made alien power has taken over and is dictating to us and ruling us.

"The System" is made up of "names". Tolle does not provide the big picture. He only provides Satanic images by association to a fictitious self, the "name". Victims to this Satanic treachery don't know how else to be. They think that the pictures they are thinking are who they really are but it is all make-believe, all mud, making up their whole system lives. My God, my saviour, my ascension, my money, my land, my, my, my, my, my............................................. Which is what "The System" is all about.

We are all broken down and divided by these images ("names") as in-divide-you-all (individuals), living for our e-motional programs (made up of "names"), and then given more system images ("names") to glue us all together as "one" - nation, country, state, principality, suburb, city, culture, religion, law, politics, education, entertainment, etc, etc, so that we can get on/live with each other bound by all the "names" of rules, regulations, rituals, conditions, procedures, contracts, etc, that we worship as "one". Paradise this ain't! Separation by "name" is not Paradise, is not freedom.

If you fully comprehend and sense/see where we are really coming from then you will see/sense that we have answered all your questions and so much more and that you can work everything else out in your unique original way without conflict = mud getting in the way.

When we have really woken up, nothing of the mud fazes us anymore, there is nothing to defend about who we are. We are not reactive to anything. All of our mud, warts and all, is all over the Love For Life website. We are not ashamed of this, or embarrassed. Others can learn from our mud if they wish and it all documents what we have gone through to get where we are now. We do not have e-motional attachments to any outcomes. If you want to work with us, great. If you decide you don't want to then it is no problem and we will keep doing what we are doing.

We are not going to allow e-motion to rule us because e-motion comes as passive aggressiveness, as power and control trips, as victim states, as injuries, as no responsibility, as complaints, as pride, anger, rage, depression, loneliness, wanting something from someone, all sorts of negative, destructive e-motions, including suicide. We cannot bring any of this stuff to Kindom. Our heads have to be clear of this shit. This is our gift to you and the best gift we have to offer. If you want to learn it, learn it, if you don't, don't. If you no longer want to like us, don't. It is up to you and we are not e-motionally attached either way.

To re-hash: the only place the Satanic world has power is in getting us to focus on the images they offer us. To depart from this hell, we have to be able to see the bigger picture so that we can see the way to navigate out forever more. When we wake up, we are ruthless to their world, we smash it brutally. This is why we say we come with a baseball bat - we show people their e-motional baggage because if they do not see it, they will not be able to let go of it. The baseball bat is confrontation, done with the best of intentions, to help people connect with their consciousness and see the mud for what it really is. How else are we going to return to paradise? And if we bring this stuff with us, there is no paradise, just a continuation of "The System" under another guise.

When we have really woken up, we have no e-motional attachment to "name", to Fiona, Arthur, Dana. We don't push away anyone when challenged, there is no abyss, no falling down into the raging fires of an e-motional hell. There is only consciousness and we can talk about anything with nothing personal coming in between. This is as empowering as it gets, which is why the Satanists/Freemasons do not want us coming together like this. They want us to come together through weakness, not strength. They want us to fake consciousness, fake truth, fake freedom, fake peace, fake our lives, etc........


 
De elite zet zeker bewuste disinfo uit, maar op een gegeven moment krijg je een 'self-fulfilling prophesy'. Als de gekte eenmaal om zich heen grijpt hoeft de elite alleen maar achterover te leunen en toe te kijken hoe wij onszelf en elkaar gek maken. Dat is ook het punt dat thijs (terecht) maakt: vraag jezelf af wat het is in JOU dat je vatbaar maakt voor de duisternis en de waanzin. Het is te makkelijk om met de vinger te wijzen naar wat ZIJ doen, het gaat om wat JIJ laat doen. Het enige wat we moeten doen is onze eigen mind control, door 100% zelfdenkend te zijn en onze vrijheid van bewustzijn niet weg te geven!

Precies! Thanx Mike

 
Geweldig om Tolle nu eens van zijn voetstuk te zien worden gestoten! Jij dank daarvoor, Debsy! Gisteravond gaf ik nog een lezing waarin ik ook vertelde dat het erom gaat dat we in onze fysieke, emotionele en spirituele KRACHT moeten staan en ons NIET moeten verenigen in zwakheid, precies wat deze vent ook zegt! Als je Tolle al ziet, weet je dat niet met een krachtig figuur te maken hebt!

Mike

 

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